Convince Me Who I Should Vote For

**AmericanDreamer** · "Question Authority" Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

I need help. Tell me why I should vote for your candidate. I have not decided as of today, and I need guidance. Too much spin...too many lies. So please, convince me. Who should I vote for and why.

P.S. You have a chance to add another vote to your candidates election, so choose your words carefully. I don't want speeches from years ago or mud slinging from yesterday. If you preach "change", then I need to know EXACTLY what the change will be.

I just need to know who I should vote for and why.

**Tumbleweed** · Admin Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts votes: 4

Hi AmericanDreamer.

I haven't made a pick yet. I can't see that any of the candidates have said enough to convince of anything yet. Good luck with your choice.

**killerbee** · Soldier Thanks: 7 Thanked 10 Times in 8 Posts votes: 3

Hi I'm new here and to make things worse I'm an Australian meddiling in your politics.
As Amercan politics effect us in Australia as far as the economy and going to war to show our support for the alliance between our countrys, I hope you don't object too much to me giving my opinion.
I would like to see Obama win the presidential elections for a number of reasons.
Since G W Bush became President Americas standing in the rest of the world has slipped dramaticly. Almost to the point of becoming a laughing stock. I think Obama would reinstate a confidence from the rest of the world which is currently lacking. It would also demonstrate that Americans are overcoming their perceived racial bias.
Obamas stated new approach would also help to alleviate the perception that America has stagnated, economically and culturally.
I think the rest of the worl would heave a great sigh of releif if Obama was to become the next President.

**AmericanDreamer** · "Question Authority" Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

killerbee wrote:

Hi I'm new here and to make things worse I'm an Australian meddiling in your politics.
As Amercan politics effect us in Australia as far as the economy and going to war to show our support for the alliance between our countrys, I hope you don't object too much to me giving my opinion.
I would like to see Obama win the presidential elections for a number of reasons.
Since G W Bush became President Americas standing in the rest of the world has slipped dramaticly. Almost to the point of becoming a laughing stock. I think Obama would reinstate a confidence from the rest of the world which is currently lacking. It would also demonstrate that Americans are overcoming their perceived racial bias.
Obamas stated new approach would also help to alleviate the perception that America has stagnated, economically and culturally.
I think the rest of the worl would heave a great sigh of releif if Obama was to become the next President.

What do you see is Obama's "new approach". I live in this country, and I haven't seen it yet.

**Coyote** · Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:28 am Post subject:

killerbee wrote:

Hi I'm new here and to make things worse I'm an Australian meddiling in your politics.

haha doesn't everyone in one way or another? Smile

Welcome!

killerbee wrote:

As Amercan politics effect us in Australia as far as the economy and going to war to show our support for the alliance between our countrys, I hope you don't object too much to me giving my opinion.

Not at all!

killerbee wrote:

I would like to see Obama win the presidential elections for a number of reasons.
Since G W Bush became President Americas standing in the rest of the world has slipped dramaticly. Almost to the point of becoming a laughing stock. I think Obama would reinstate a confidence from the rest of the world which is currently lacking. It would also demonstrate that Americans are overcoming their perceived racial bias.
Obamas stated new approach would also help to alleviate the perception that America has stagnated, economically and culturally.
I think the rest of the worl would heave a great sigh of releif if Obama was to become the next President.

I like Obama so far for all those reasons, and I'm hoping he'll be able to live up to even half the expectations the people who are voting for him have for him.

**Tumbleweed** · Admin Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts votes: 4

Hi killerbee. Welcome.

Obama won't change anything about our racial bias.IMO. It will be a least one more generation before that happens. Our next president will be taking over for a president to has just proposed record deficit spending so there is no way Obama, or anyone else will be able to dig us out of that mess in the short term. I haven't heard much about his long term policies yet. I guess he's saving the best for last.

To elect a president just because he is black is as misguided as electing a president because she is a woman. Job performance is what we need, not that warm fuzzy feeling photo-op policy we are getting rid of.

As for culture I'm not sure what everyone expects. We are what we are. If we try to live up to everyone's expectations it won't work anyway. The harder we try to do that the worse off we get.

Good luck with your pick.

**CHUQ** · Agitator Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts votes: 3

I* do not want to convince anyone. I suggest that you go to the remaining candidates websites, read their positions and then if you have question mail them. as for me, I am not impressed with none of the remaining candidates.

**Rupchuk** · Moderator Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts votes: 4

Oh my this is the first post I've put up in forever (forever being since October 16th). There are a lot of new faces, still some old ones though. Anyways, to the topic at hand.

It all depends on what you want in a candidate. Personally I'm voting for Ron Paul, a US rep from Texas. I don't care what kind of "chances" he has at getting elected. He's the only candidate I know of that has the constitution and America as the highest priority. He's the only Republican candidate who wants a pullout of Iraq, not just of Iraq either but of other countries (like Korea, Germany, Italy, the UK, Japan, etc.). He's the only candidate who even talks about social security as if it is a big issue. He is opposed to the war on drugs, his voting record and own words confirm this. He is very pro-2nd amendment. He is rated with a B from the NRA, if that matters. He has constantly called the ATF for what they are and has said he would disband them if elected. He also wants to do away with huge amounts of the federal government, all of which are unconstitutional and wasteful.

If you want someone who cares about America more than special interest groups then I'd vote for Dr. Paul. Some of his ideas are hard to swallow, especially if you like big brother holding your hand. Honestly though, no other candidate can hold a candle to him.

**Coyote** · Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 12:11 am Post subject:

Oh man Rupchuk, I have been thinking about you a lot lately, wondering what you're up to and how things are going. You stateside yet?

**CHUQ** · Agitator Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts votes: 3

Nice to see you Rupchuk. And Paul scares the Repubs into a stroke. I like that.

**NICKHILL80** · Civilian Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts votes: 1

killerbee wrote:

Hi I'm new here and to make things worse I'm an Australian meddiling in your politics.
As Amercan politics effect us in Australia as far as the economy and going to war to show our support for the alliance between our countrys, I hope you don't object too much to me giving my opinion.
I would like to see Obama win the presidential elections for a number of reasons.
Since G W Bush became President Americas standing in the rest of the world has slipped dramaticly. Almost to the point of becoming a laughing stock. I think Obama would reinstate a confidence from the rest of the world which is currently lacking. It would also demonstrate that Americans are overcoming their perceived racial bias.
Obamas stated new approach would also help to alleviate the perception that America has stagnated, economically and culturally.
I think the rest of the worl would heave a great sigh of releif if Obama was to become the next President.

Thanks for your insight, I agree with you 100% if hes already reaching people outside this country in his message were already moving in the right direction. All we need to do now is to get the people of this country to believe in his mission and what Obama truly stands for.

Super Tuesday Speech: passionate, real, inspiring, and for me this is the kind of step we need to take moving forward to a greater, safer, more civilized world.

**Rupchuk** · Moderator Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts votes: 4

I'm back in America. I got back in September. My wife's visa was approved and she has it, but she has some family things to attend to first before she can come over. I'm getting out of the USAF in March and she'll be here around then so it's good timing. Ok, back to the topic at hand.

Obama scares me, he doesn't really say much except 'change, change, change'. But he doesn't say what that change is. I'd rather see him over Clinton but I wouldn't want to see either of them elected.

**CHUQ** · Agitator Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts votes: 3

That is why I like to go to all election sites, I want specifics on how you will help me and the people of this country. I realize that promises are seldom kept, but if their rap sounds good they will get my vote.

**TomSlayer** · Civilian Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts

What America needs right now is progress on numerous domestic fronts. Issues like Social Security, medical costs, immigration control, a balanced budget and national debt.

Considering how the political climate in Washington is so divisive, between parties, progress will require a president who is able to reach across party lines to get anything accomplished. Both Democrat nominees are as bias as they come.

If you listen to the way Hillary has ever talked about the other party it's clear she sees Republican shadows in her dreams. We have zero chance of her doing what is required to work together.

Obama doesn't have a long history to draw from but based on the record he has as a Senator, he is the most one sided voter in the Senate. Talk is cheap and his work in the Senate doesn't show an effort to find common ground. Washington may be receptive for a short time but it won't take long and his one sided agenda will meet resistance like status-quo.

McCain on the other hand has a long history of reaching out to find common ground in order to accomplish progress. He's paid a price in his own party for this effort. The nice term used to describe him is a Maverick but with how bias Republican leadership is, he is considered a trader by some.

Bottom line, we need progress on the issues I mentioned in the beginning of my post. All candidates have platforms with plans for change. IMO, Washington will continue to be divisive and McCain has the most likely chance to make that progress happen. After all, he has been doing it for years already.

My other major point is our financial situation in this country. When I look at all candidates platforms I see one one which stands out as responsible.

Both Hillary and Obama's plans will require a costly amount. If you think the war is expensive, their plans will make the war seem cheap!!!

McCain's plans aren't close to the same amount of cost (including the war). Again, he has a history of responsible spending. In all his time in Washington, he has never taken earmarked federal funds back to his home state. He didn't vote for funding the last round of helping us with our taxes...why? Because it didn't include cuts.

As far as the war goes, if we don't stay in Iraq until the new govt. is stable enough to maintain control, it's just a matter of time before we end up going back. Reguardless of your position on the war, history backs this up.

**CHUQ** · Agitator Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts votes: 3

But if history were ever consulted then we would not be in this war up to our necks. The history of Iraq pointed to the outcome of our invasion, so to use history to stay is fine, but it should have been used to decide to go in the first place.

As far as domestic issues go, we are only dreaming that things will get better. Promises are like clouds, they change shape constantly.