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Postby CHUQ on Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:59 am

True that, this attempt may have been noble at first, but now they are just a bunch of hacks in my opinion .
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Postby Tumbleweed on Fri Jan 18, 2008 1:50 pm

It's a shame really. I think they started out right but they seem to have gotten away from their original intentions.
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Postby CHUQ on Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:26 am

The more I watch this stuff the more I think it was a scam and Bloomberg was gonna be the choice no matter who else was in the mix.
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Postby Tumbleweed on Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:24 am

If that is the case they should have endorsed him from the start and got him involved early in the race. IMO.
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Mit Romney is the best choice for President

Postby tinglott on Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:21 pm

Mit Romney is the best candidate for president. It is time for change. Our country needs a prov-en leader like Mit. Do judge a man for his religion. Remember religion and politics don't mix. Beside it bigotry to put down anothers religion. If you want to talk bible. The bibe tells us not to judge for we will be judged. Here's why Mit is the man with the plan and should be president. #1 He is articulate and can stand beside any other candidate or world leader and convey his point with a clear & concise tact. He has had to have such tact negotiating multi million business deals and has a reputation for honesty and unsurpassed ethics.
#2 He has a plan to finish this war with expedience but VICTORY. He speaks of the different sects in the middle east with understanding and foreign affair knowledge. Fred and Rudy are the only other ones who have done this. Huckabee probably can not point to the middle east on a map. >that bothers me and secures my stance on Romney.

#3 He has had the highest and most expansive budget experience of any candidate. He turned a neg Olympic budget and a neg MA budget into a positive. He did this in MA without burdening the middle class or poor. He did it in MA without raising taxes. His golden touch to fiscal problems leads me to think he is the best and possibly our only hope to balance the nat. budget. He has a solid plan to do this that is to long to explain. Curious can view at his web site.

#4 He thinks outside the box but always considers each and every reaction from an action and gets perspective from experts and others to assist in making the best decision. Former co workers call him the king of responsibility and commend his careful study of a subject before irresponsibly acting. Rash decisions lead to bad decisions. However, he clarified that if imminent threat exist he has the ability to think on his feet. I like this balance.

#5 Immigration: He was the first, to my knowledge, that come up with the worker ID program, fines for employees that hire illegals, and finish the fence. Simple, yet very effective.

#6 His background is squeaky clean. He does not have the political scandals, ethic issues, personal scandals, etc that the other candidates have. This shows me honesty and good character.

#7 He has run his campaign like a business machine. He has raised the most money of Republican candidates and by far has the most well oiled campaign.

#8 He has endured religious bigotry by the media and some voters, he has lasted while people mislabeled him. Instead he held his head high and never disavowed his church or ran from his mistake ..ion.
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Postby CHUQ on Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:24 am

He may be squeaky clean, but as far as being clear, I have seen that. For one, his economic stands are vague and confusing. For instance, how will he create jobs? With tax incentices? Sorry but consumer demand creates jobs not tax cuts.
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Postby Tumbleweed on Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:34 am

Hello tinglott. Welcome.

I don't see Mitt quite the way you do I guess.

#1. Does that unsurpassed ethics include hiring illegal aliens?

#2. Where did Mitt get war experience? What branch did he serve in? Romney earned a draft deferral by going to France for a two-year missionary tour with the Mormon Church. As such, he was able to avoid military service in Vietnam.

#3. I suppose his web site paints a pretty picture but the fair citizens of Mass might disagree on what he did for them. If under funding programs means budget experience, he's your man. Here is a good example of what he did for school funding.

Romney's proposed budget for fiscal 2004 included a slight increase in K-12 school spending -- $25.4 million, or less than 1 percent. But the actual budget approved by the Legislature and signed by Romney cut K-12 school spending by $181.6 million, or 4 percent. The story is simpler for higher education: Romney proposed a cut of $100 million, or about 10 percent, and the final budget reduced it $112 million, or 11 percent.

#4. What does thinking outside the box, and think standing on his feet mean?

#5. Romney began talking about giving troopers the power to make arrests on immigration charges earlier in 2006, but he didn't sign an agreement with the federal government - a necessary condition for that authority to be granted - until Dec. 13 of that year. Romney was scheduled to leave office Jan. 4, 2007. Democrat Deval Patrick, who had won the race to succeed Romney, had already said the program was a "bad idea" because troopers were busy enough as it was.

Sure enough, Patrick rescinded the agreement within his first week in office so troopers could "focus on enforcing Massachusetts laws." The policy never had a chance to take effect, because those troopers chosen to carry it out hadn't yet begun a required six-week training course.

#6. Honesty? He begged voters to accept him as an embracer of abortion rights. "I believe that abortion should be safe and legal," he said. He staked his credentials on his mother, Lenore. He said she ran for the Senate in 1970 on an abortion-rights platform, inspired by the death of her son-in-law's teenage sister from an illegal abortion. "My mother and my family have been committed to the belief that we can believe as we want, but we will not force our beliefs on others on that matter. And you will not see me wavering on that," he said.

In June 2005, former Globe columnist Eileen McNamara challenged Romney's assertion of his mother's pro-choice position. Two longtime Romney family friends and political supporters -- former governor William Milliken and former Republican National Committee co-chairwoman Elly Peterson -- told McNamara they could not recall Lenore Romney speaking out publicly for abortion. If she had, it would have represented a dramatic change of heart and break with the Mormon Church. Peterson, who worked on Lenore Romney's campaign, said, "If it happened, I'd remember it. It didn't and I don't." Milliken, who served as George Romney's lieutenant governor, also expressed skepticism.

#7. Good fund raisers don't necessarily make good presidents.

#8. His religious affiliation may hurt him as much as help him. Their are a lot of folks who view the Mormon religion as a cult.
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Postby CHUQ on Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:53 am

A moot point! He be gone, gone, gone.
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Postby Tumbleweed on Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:03 am

Yea, he was even more unpopular than I thought he would be.
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Postby CHUQ on Sat Feb 09, 2008 3:55 am

Is tinglott, suggesting that Mitt be offered as a candidate for Unity 08?
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Postby BipartisanBridge on Wed Jul 30, 2008 2:32 am

The Bipartisan Bridge (www.BipartisanBridge.org) is a great channel to accelerate bipartisan and post-partisan public policy development that is very consistent with the objectives of Unity '08. In fact, we had been in close discussions with their founders last year, prior to their "evolution". Please feel free to visit the site and post your bipartisan / post-partisan policy ideas on the Your Bipartisan Ideas tab.
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Postby helloworldbea on Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:11 pm

Ergh. I shrug just thinking about this.
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