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Postby Tumbleweed on Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:51 am

Unity08 seems to be an up and coming alternative to the 2 party system. I can't seem to find their platform or even if they have one yet. They haven't endorsed any candidates yet but their organization still seems to be in the planning stage. I'll try to relate some of their concerns but my impression is they have a lot of work to do. :lol:

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Unity08

From their website:
Who we are:

Unity08 is a group of citizens deeply concerned that the wheels have come off our political system, that the American Dream is slipping away, and that time is short to get things back on track.

We are of all ages, backgrounds, colors and beliefs and from both parties:

Some of us have been involved in political campaigns at the state and national levels and served in high government positions.
Others of our leadership group have never been active in political life but have been highly successful in the private sector, active in the non-profit world and in other walks of American life.
Still others of our leadership group are students, who are concerned that the agenda of special interests is coming before the national interest.
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Postby Tumbleweed on Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:55 am

What we believe, also from their website




What We Believe
Unity08 believes that neither of today’s major parties reflects the aspirations, fears or will of the majority of Americans. Both have polarized and alienated the people. Both are unduly influenced by single-issue groups. Both are excessively dominated by money.

For most of the 20th Century, the contest for the U.S. presidency was waged over those “in the middle.” Recent Presidential elections, however, have not been focused on the middle but on the turnout of each party’s special interest groups — with each party’s “base” representing barely ten percent of the American people.

We believe that, while the leaders of both major parties are well intentioned people, they are trapped in a flawed system — and that the two major parties are today simply neither relevant to the issues and challenges of the 21st Century nor effective in addressing them.

As a result, most Americans have not been enthusiastic about the choices for President in recent elections, the key issues they ran on, or the manner in which the campaigns were conducted.

Therefore Unity08 will act to assure that an alternative ticket is presented to the American voters in 2008.
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Postby Tumbleweed on Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:56 am

Their goals, from their website


Our Goals
We have set three specific goals, and are exploring how best to achieve them.

Goal One is the election of a Unity Ticket for President and Vice-President of the United States in 2008 — headed by a woman and/or man from each major party or by an independent who presents a Unity Team from both parties.
Goal Two is for the people themselves to pick that Unity Ticket in the first half of 2008 — via a virtual and secure online convention in which all American voters will be qualified to vote.
Goal Three is for the delegates to that convention to select the issues which are crucial to America’s future and the questions on those crucial issues which the candidates should address fully and candidly.
The new ground broken in meeting our goals will include new choices for voters, new opportunities for candidates, and new uses of modern technology as well. In pursuing our goals, we will both follow the law in every instance and seek the opinion of the Federal Elections Commission to interpret the law where we are breaking new ground.

We are not looking to build a new and permanent party. That might happen, but our objective is to fix the old parties. A Unity Ticket in office for one term or even taking part in just one election can bring new ideas, new integrity and new leaders to the fore.

We will not waste time assessing blame. Both parties and all of us who have been active in them share responsibility for the current political morass. We hope instead to return the focus of our politics and policy to the common good — those ideas and traditions which unite and empower us as individuals and as a people.
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Postby Tumbleweed on Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:58 am

Unity08 on Lobbying and Corruption: From their website

Unity08 on Lobbying and Corruption
Unity08 strongly believes the corrupting influence of special interest money is a major cause of today’s fundamentally broken political system. Lobbyist money plus pandering to the intense ideological bases by both parties yields the blame-game partisan bickering that has destroyed voter confidence. No other issue will get solved until this one does.

Unity08 intends to fix this broken system by electing a bipartisan “Unity Ticket” to the White House in ‘08 funded solely by small-dollar donations from everyday Americans. As a result the Unity08 President and Vice President will enter office not with favors owed to lobbyists and special interests but with a clear mandate from the American people to cooperate and provide courageous leadership on the most crucial, complex issues facing our country.
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Postby Tumbleweed on Sat Jul 07, 2007 9:59 am

On the issues: From their website.

Unity08 on the Issues
Unity08 divides issues facing the country into two categories: Crucial Issues — on which America’s future safety and welfare depend; and Important Issues — which, while vital to some, will not, in our judgment, determine the fate or future of the United States.

In our opinion, Crucial Issues include: Global terrorism, our national debt, our dependence on foreign oil, the emergence of India and China as strategic competitors and/or allies, nuclear proliferation, global climate change, the corruption of Washington’s lobbying system, the education of our young, the health care of all, and the disappearance of the American Dream for so many of our people.

By contrast, we consider gun control, abortion and gay marriage important issues, worthy of debate and discussion in a free society, but not issues that should dominate or even crowd our national agenda.

In our opinion — since the disintegration of the Soviet Union — our political system seems to have focused more attention on the “important issues” than the “crucial issues.” One result: The political parties have been built to address the interests of their “base” but have failed to address the realities that impact most Americans
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Postby CHUQ on Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:52 am

IMO, the chance of an independent party is Unity08. They are approaching the election reasonably and with some success. I think it should be considered if you are unhappy with the 2 parties.
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Postby Tumbleweed on Sun Jul 08, 2007 8:40 am

I like what I see so far from Unity08 and it seems they aren't rushing into anything. I'd like to see them succeed as a good 3rd party alternative.
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Postby CHUQ on Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:11 am

I agree and if the internet thing works well, it will probably become a standard.
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Postby Tumbleweed on Mon Jul 09, 2007 11:24 am

They need to set up a good format for their site. They could use a good web designer.
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Postby CHUQ on Tue Jul 10, 2007 4:20 am

Tumble--if you have an idea, I am sure they would like to hear it. They are a pretty open group and care what the ppl have to say, beyond the elections.
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Postby Tumbleweed on Tue Jul 10, 2007 8:10 am

What do you think of their website CHUQ? I find it hard to navigate. I don't spend much time there but just finding and going through the comment and discussion area is a bit time consuming.
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Postby CHUQ on Wed Jul 11, 2007 4:28 am

I agree it could use an upgrade, it is a bit tedious.
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Postby Tumbleweed on Wed Jul 11, 2007 8:59 am

How are they doing as far as the convention they were planning?
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Postby CHUQ on Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:53 am

Things are moving along very well, the problem is they are staring to get some that are there to sabotage, IMO. I realize it is open to all that feel they are disenfranchised by the 2 parties, but they need to be aware that there are those who want to scuttle their attempt.
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Postby CHUQ on Thu Jul 12, 2007 4:54 am

Tumble--you need to go to their discussionbs and put you 2 cents in. I will go in the next couple of days and offer a Feingold/Powell combo.
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