Liberalism Vs Conservatism

CHUQ · Posted: Sat Nov 24, 2007 3:38 am Post subject: Liberalism Vs Conservatism

This is a piece I wrote while relaxing from lots of food.

LIBERAL VERSES CONSERVATIVE

Are a liberal or a conservative? How about Republican or Democrat? Does it matter? Actually, it does not! With the approaching primaries and then the election, I have been thinking about this very subject for awhile. There seems to be very little that separates thye two parties, other than minor emotional bullsh*t.

Really? Why? Look at the candidates in the upcoming election. The major candidates are corporate liberals. Rudy or Hilary, no much difference between the two. One is "liberal" repub and the other is a "conservative" dem. Ask why corporate owned media is pushing Giuliani and Clinton. Why does the media want a cat fight between obama and Clinton?

Actually, the whole system is lead and controlled by corporate liberals. And they have been in control since 1933. Their control is extended by such organizations as the Council on Forgein Affairs, International Monetary Fund and the World bank.

Why do I say this? Well, they both approve of moderate trade unions, intergration of minorities, moderate welfare, heavy involvement in the economy, foreign aid. Again there is minor differences on how they think these policies should be used.

Corporate liberals control both the Republican and Democratic parties. Only once did it deviate from this formula; that was in 1964 when the Repub nominee was Goldwater over the corportate choice of Rockefeller. And then they lost control of the dems in 1972 when McGovern was picked over Humphrey or Muskie.

The upper class right wing and the corporate liberals have basically the same direction for policy. The differences center on whose approach is best for the maximization of profits and necessary conditions for the continuation of the upper class rule.

Now there is the upper class left wing--they function as the innovators and the guardians of class rule. Thier innovations are basically on how to stabilize capitalism and the define the acceptable limits of the left's boundary. They also spend a major amount of time and resources opposing any third party that would jeopardize the control of the corporate liberals. Especially any third party that will not defend a big business controlled foreign policy.

If there is any doubt about this, then I suggest looking at the candidates that are running now. Any of the major candidates have a platform that does not favor the upper class. Remember, I said major. That would be Clinton, Giuliani, Obama, McCain, Romney,: edwards can be eliminated somewhat, he is a bit of an anomely. There will be NO difference in whoever you elect, there will be only minor differences in their approach.

This whole two party thing is just f*cking silly! The whole partisan, us against them, thing is just as damn silly. No matter where you put you vote; you will be voting for the same people, the corporate liberals.

Put a little thought into your vote. Stop listening to the bovine fecal matter that impresses you. Learn where to put your vote, so that the American people, your children and grandchildren, will have a descent life. Stop worrying about who said or who did not. Stop worrying about your pathetic little life and show some concern for the country you pretend to love.

Yes, I said this and I mean every f*cking word of it!

CHUQ

22 Nov 07
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Tumbleweed · Black Ops Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 3687 votes: 3

Great article CHUQ. I actually can't find a candidate that I want to back. as far as I'm concerned there isn't a lot to pick from, and some of the good idea out there are from the not so popular candidates. Looks like another year of picking the lesser of the 2 evils to me.
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CHUQ · Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:42 am Post subject:

I heard an interesting story y/day on the news, but cannot find a link to it. Kucinich said that if he was the nominee he would pick Paul as his running mate. I found that interesting.
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Tumbleweed · Black Ops Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 3687 votes: 3

Not a bad move for Kucinich, IMO. I don't think it's a winning ticket, but it would be an interesting match.
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CHUQ · Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 3:28 am Post subject:

Sadly, you are right. The media does not want Kucinich in the running, so it would be up to the people to change that, but they will not.
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Tumbleweed · Black Ops Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 3687 votes: 3

From what I can see they are lining up behind the candidates with the most money and name recognition while the rest of the field goes unnoticed and practically ignored by the media.
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CHUQ · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 2:51 am Post subject:

Sounds like they support the ones that will spend the most. And who says that the elections are not bought and sold?
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Tumbleweed · Black Ops Joined: 02 Jul 2007 Posts: 3687 votes: 3

Elections aren't won on principle, they are won by funding.
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CHUQ · Posted: Sun Dec 02, 2007 4:07 am Post subject:

Thomas Paine would be flippin' in his grave. this is not what he envisioned.
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