Patriotism

**AlicornsPrayer** · Admin Thanks: 21 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts votes: 2

Actually Killer, I agree with what you've said in your post.

And take it from Coyote...You're not responsible for what happened here. What happened wasn't even a blip on the uproar measuring machine.

All we have in this situation is a person that loves to exaggerate circumstances and play victim whenever their story telling isn't swallowed hook, line, and sinker. And perhaps a bit bent that they weren't immediately invited to join all of us for a drink? Laughing

**EvilPopTarts** · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:17 am Post subject:

Still calling me a racist, lol.. The comments about the black women having 10 babies to get a bigger welfare check is true. Like it or not. The facts are the facts. I stand by everything I said. One lady I knew in particular would get her check and head to the casino's. You wouldn't see her again until she was broke. I see people using food stamps at the store and driving an Escalade. The feeble mind might be your own AlicornsPrayer. I will find the post where you threatened to ban someone for what they had said to someone else. I never said you banned anyone. Geez! Read the damn post! Banning someone is just a power trip anyway. We all know that with proxies and multiple email accts. its really not possible. I wouldn't expect you to ban anyone and I'm not asking you to. I was just pointing out that you look one sided and I believe you are. Anyway if no one wants to talk about my weaner anymore then I'm bored. Can't even get a good debate here about that. Coyote I don't think I accused you of anything?

If you guys don't mind could you attack me one at a time please.. I promise I will respond to each but this is just to much. You guys got a little gang banging of your own going on here.

**Coyote** · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:42 am Post subject:

EvilPopTarts wrote:

Still calling me a racist, lol..

No one has called you a racist on this forum, but you seem convinced that someone has. Maybe it's your guilty conscience?

EvilPopTarts wrote:

The comments about the black women having 10 babies to get a bigger welfare check is true. Like it or not. The facts are the facts. I stand by everything I said.

So are you saying that black women have children just to get a bigger welfare check?

EvilPopTarts wrote:

One lady I knew in particular would get her check and head to the casino's. You wouldn't see her again until she was broke. I see people using food stamps at the store and driving an Escalade.

Are you saying white people never do that sort of thing?

EvilPopTarts wrote:

The feeble mind might be your own AlicornsPrayer.

Keep it up, kiddo. I don't need to ban you to make my point. Abuse of other forum members will not be tolerated.

EvilPopTarts wrote:

I will find the post where you threatened to ban someone for what they had said to someone else. I never said you banned anyone. Geez! Read the damn post!
Banning someone is just a power trip anyway. We all know that with proxies and multiple email accts. its really not possible. I wouldn't expect you to ban anyone and I'm not asking you to. I was just pointing out that you look one sided and I believe you are. Anyway if no one wants to talk about my weaner anymore then I'm bored. Can't even get a good debate here about that.

Thanks for letting us know what you're really interested in talking about. Should have known.

EvilPopTarts wrote:

Coyote I don't think I accused you of anything?

Sounds like someone doesn't read his own posts very well.

EvilPopTarts wrote:

Lets face it! This is a pro Obama website with a pro Obama administrator that attacks his members when they say something he doesn't agree with.

http://www.americanpoliticsforum.com/post11812.html#11812

EvilPopTarts wrote:

If you guys don't mind could you attack me one at a time please.. I promise I will respond to each but this is just to much. You guys got a little gang banging of your own going on here.

I have a better idea. Since you're so obsessed with gang banging, black people, and the relative size of your weiner, maybe you'd be happier posting at Stormfront. On second thought, that place is probably too intellectual for you. Why don't you try this place instead?

**EvilPopTarts** · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 9:30 am Post subject:

Yes I have been called a racist, several times.

No not all black women have babies for that purpose but there is a very large number that do. Especially in places like the Mississippi Delta.

I have never known any white people that do that but I Imagine there are some that do.

LMAO.. Your going to ban me for abuse of other forum members? Didn't we just finish having a discussion about this? There goes that one sided thing again, lol. That word feeble came from one of AlicornsPrayer last post about me in this thread so kiss my ass! By the way I'm not a kiddo.

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Thanks for letting us know what you're really interested in talking about. Should have known.

LMAO.. I didn't bring it up. That came from one of your trashy members that personally attacked me.

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Sounds like someone doesn't read his own posts very well.

You asked me to show you where you insulted me. Are you an admin? If so I was not speaking of you. Does that clear things up?

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I have a better idea. Since you're so obsessed with gang banging, black people, and the relative size of your weiner, maybe you'd be happier posting at Stormfront. On second thought, that place is probably too intellectual for you. Why don't you try this place instead?

Like I said I didn't bring it up. I'm not familiar with those sites you posted but you seem to be.

**AlicornsPrayer** · Admin Thanks: 21 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts votes: 2

EvilPopTarts wrote:

The feeble mind might be your own AlicornsPrayer. I will find the post where you threatened to ban someone for what they had said to someone else. I never said you banned anyone. Geez! Read the damn post! Banning someone is just a power trip anyway. We all know that with proxies and multiple email accts. its really not possible. I wouldn't expect you to ban anyone and I'm not asking you to. I was just pointing out that you look one sided and I believe you are. Anyway if no one wants to talk about my weaner anymore then I'm bored. Can't even get a good debate here about that. Coyote I don't think I accused you of anything?

If you guys don't mind could you attack me one at a time please.. I promise I will respond to each but this is just to much. You guys got a little gang banging of your own going on here.

Nothing 'feeble minded' at all on my part. You're referring to Smeagle's calling people 'fa**ot', right?

My telling him that he'd be banned if he continued to use the term 'fa**ot' had nothing to do with his political position...It had to do with his all out attack on a member and insulting them through the use of a derogitory term.

And his comment, 'fa**ot', came right on the heels of another person spamming our chatroom against a particular member here calling them the same thing...Of which that individual also had a warning for doing so, along with the offending comments deleted from the chatroom log.

I'm sorry, but we DO NOT TOLERATE members that attack other members in that manner. ANY member here that uses derogitory terms towards another member, will be told to cease such behavior...And if they continue to do so, they will be BANNED...No if, ands, or buts. As such, I would have been derelect in my duties by NOT warning Smeagle of improper word useage.

You don't like that? Oh well, then you have a personal issue there. But for you to try and claim that the warning was done because of someone else's political position, when it was anything BUT that? Then you need to take a reality check.

I find it amusing that YOU think it's YOUR position to tell myself or any of our other staff what our jobs should/shouldn't be....But unless either I or Coyote put YOU in the position of being on our site's moderating team...You really have no say about what our jobs should/shouldn't be...

You don't like how we do our jobs? Then by all means you are free to leave this board and go elsewhere...

Let me tell you this one more time...You are a GUEST ONLY here. This is Coyote and my 'house'....You want to be here then that means you play by OUR rules.

Kapish?

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EvilPopTarts wrote:

Yes I have been called a racist, several times.

No not all black women have babies for that purpose but there is a very large number that do. Especially in places like the Mississippi Delta.

I have never known any white people that do that but I Imagine there are some that do.

LMAO.. Your going to ban me for abuse of other forum members? Didn't we just finish having a discussion about this? There goes that one sided thing again, lol. That word feeble came from one of AlicornsPrayer last post about me in this thread so kiss my ass! By the way I'm not a kiddo.

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Thanks for letting us know what you're really interested in talking about. Should have known.

LMAO.. I didn't bring it up. That came from one of your trashy members that personally attacked me.

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Sounds like someone doesn't read his own posts very well.

You asked me to show you where you insulted me. Are you an admin? If so I was not speaking of you. Does that clear things up?

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I have a better idea. Since you're so obsessed with gang banging, black people, and the relative size of your weiner, maybe you'd be happier posting at Stormfront. On second thought, that place is probably too intellectual for you. Why don't you try this place instead?

Like I said I didn't bring it up. I'm not familiar with those sites you posted but you seem to be.

Funny, but you act like a kid...

Also, you haven't been called racist here...You've been told you're making racist comments or promoting racist thoughts with your fearmongering material you provide as 'proof'. That isn't calling you specifically a racist. Just the opinions that you use here and in comments you make about others. I think Coyote's hit the nail on the head...You are the one labeling yourself racist because of a guilty concious.

Guess it's also going over your head about what Coyote is saying...We have ZERO TOLERANCE in regards to attacking administration or moderating staff.

The fact that you are still here after repeatedly questioning our reason for doing/not doing something in regards to other members, as well as verbally assaulting said staff members repeatedly shows in fact just how off base your accusations and assumptions are about our motives or actions...

Because by our site's standards you've more then earned having your account closed and banned permenantly...Yet here you still are without even an infraction against your account.

What's funny is nobody here, including any of our staff, has attacked you...Anything said to you has been in the same tones you've directed at the members here. Seems with you we have a case of you can dish it out, but you seem incapable of taking it yourself. Seems you do the 'trash' (your term, not mine) talking then try to blame it on others when they throw back at you what you throw at them.

Boo hoo hoo! Would you like a bit of cheese with your whine?

And Coyote IS Administration. He's the HEAD Administrator in fact. He owns this site, maintains it's programing, etc. I'm his co-Administrator since this isn't the only site he owns, maintains, or works on elsewhere. In fact, if you look at the bottom of the home page, where when members are on and there's different color codes for who's who? You'll see that his ID is the color black and the heading is 'Main Administrator'...

And under the red color code, of 'Adminstator', you'll see his ID listed again, as well as mine and 3 others...

For someone that makes claims of how 'informed' they are about the going ons here and who's who...You seem to be uninformed about who's administration...Let alone have a grasp about what their political leanings are period.

From what's been discussed previously to your joining this site, Coyote is the only administrator here that is 'Pro-Obama' as he's told you. In fact, you've made several statements as to your having read past threads in here...If you've actually done so, then you'd know that I'm not 'Pro-Obama'...Since for some reason, despite the fact that Coyote and myself have told you repeatedly since you started your rants about 'Administration' that he is indeed 'Pro-Obama'...It still seems to go over your head that he's ADMINISTRATION.

So much so, you've got to say in this latest response..' Are you an admin? If so I was not speaking of you.'

Funny how him and I have repeatedly told you he is and you still think he isn't...Who's the one here that's 'feeble minded'? Isn't Coyote or me at all..But yourself who seems incapable of grasping what we've told you or your being able to differentiate between friendly poking and what 'attacking' is...

In fact, if you'd actually read my response to your whining yesterday, you'd have seen right in that response, what political position I do fall in...But since that seems to have went over your head as well, I guess I'll have to be less sublet for you...As well as your claims of having read past posts of mine that 'tell you who I'm for or against' voting wise...

I'm NOT voting for a president. I'm voting for local politicians in my area that I have confidence in...But I will not be checking any of the boxes listed under 'Presidential Canidates' come this November...As I'm not satisfied with any of the choices at this time and it would take one heck of a miracle to get me to vote for any of them.

The fact that I'm up to my neck, sick and tired of your type promoting disinformation about Obama, doesn't make me 'Pro-Obama' in the least. It just means that I've heard your bull before, have done the research into your urban myths about him, and I'm not going to pretend your lies are truth in those regards.

I don't support dirty politics by anyone in regards to any canidate. And since the primaries, the dirt and gossip has been focused soley on Obama. Read it already, researched it already, and it's nothing but innuendo and gossip that is baseless. And as such, anyone trying to pass that junk off as 'truth', I'll be more then happy to call them on talking the 'trash' they're talking about Obama.

Then you want to make accusations that I threaten to ban people cause of their political leanings? ROTFLMAOL!

In fact, the only reason kiddo you haven't been banned? Is because of me in fact. It's already been brought up about banning you and I said it wasn't necessary, to give you a bit more time to get used to the members here and find your little niche in our family or decide to move on yourself...

So before you start with further whining about just how 'unfair administration is'? Or start back on your baseless 'Pro-Obama administration' ranting? Rember that the only reason you're still a member here is because of the very people you are falsely accusing and whining about.

So far you're batting zero kiddo...You've been wrong about everything you've assumed about this site or it's staff. Especially in regards to myself or my 'motives' for doing my job you've imagined.

You better be careful there as well kiddo...Cause you keep up the personal attacks on myself or our staff along questioning the duties of our staff... I'll have no choice but to suspend you.

Kapish?

**Rupchuk** · Moderator Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts votes: 4

EvilPopTarts wrote:

I have never known any white people that do that but I Imagine there are some that do.

If you would like to take a trip to Kentucky I could show you the scum of the "white race". There are whites here who are so fat, lazy, and ignorant. These people infuriate me to no end. They complain that there are no jobs, yet whenever someone needs help mowing their lawn or putting a fence up or any little small job they just sit on their front porch complaining instead of getting up and working. They complain that the government sucks, yet they take welfare checks. And the best part is that they are so racist, yet they are no better than the Blacks and Mexicans they complain about.

**EvilPopTarts** · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject:

LMAO.. Now its a suspension? Call it what you want but it is what is. I'm not into reading personal profiles. I assumed Coyote was a moderator.

There's no whining here. Why would I whine? I'm just pointing out whats plain to see. Please let me have some more! How about talking about my mother?

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Like you've been told repeatedly already, IF you want to discuss politicians, just lose the fear mongering urban myths about the canidates. Stick to REALITY, not assumption and wishful thinking

So in other words certain issues are not up for debate. You may see them as urban myths and some may see them as truth because of first hand experiences. Who made you the god of all knowledge?

When you are the administrator of a site and you back up what someone else says its no different than you saying it yourself.

The only thing I was trying to point out is that sooner or later people have to take personal responsibility. There are some things that people have to fix themselves. Welfare is a way of life for a lot of people. I would really like to see the black communities get past these issues. Those blacks who choose to do something with their lives are doing it and I applaud them. I'm sorry if I come out looking racist. I have a 4 year old adopted son who is African - American. He was a good friends child who had no relatives. He was killed in a car accident. The mother turned to alcohol and was found dead after being thrown off a bridge into a semi-dry creek bed. I would like to see him have a good life but I know he'll have to do it himself through personal responsibility. You won't get an apology from me even if my comments seem racist.

There are direct contradictions in your post. Live by our rules and say what we allow you to say? No thanks!

**AlicornsPrayer** · Admin Thanks: 21 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts votes: 2

EvilPopTarts wrote:

LMAO.. Now its a suspension? Call it what you want but it is what is. I'm not into reading personal profiles. I assumed Coyote was a moderator.

There's no whining here. Why would I whine? I'm just pointing out whats plain to see. Please let me have some more! How about talking about my mother?

Funny, but you won't find 'Administrator' listed in either of our profiles...But exactly where you saw 'Administrator' in the first place...At the bottom of the homepage where there are colored tabs of types of memberships here...

And the first member group listed is 'Main Administrator' in black...And just like you associated 'Administrator' being red and my ID showing up in red...Then it doesn't take rocket science to associate 'Main Administrator' showing the color black attached to Coyote's name...Which means he's Administration and that his position is higher on the 'food chain' then my position...

So unless you are mentally challenged, then there was no way you could assume he was 'just a moderator'...Especially when 'just a moderator' shows up in the green color assignment?

Then add into that, your first post accusing the 'administration of being Pro-Obama' and Coyote was the one to respond with 'yes, I'm Pro-Obama but the site isn't' was equilivant to a brick being dropped on your head...Then his repeated replies to your 'administration is Pro-Obama' afterwards only confirming his position of being THE Administrator...

Are you then confirming you are not the brightest lightbulb in the pack?

And you've not made one comment that was 'plain to see'...All you've done is post assumptions about what you'd like the situations to be and then cry wolf when you're proven wrong.

And no thanks...We'll leave the trashing of other's families to your more then capable hands...You seem to excell in trashing other people or misrepresenting their positions quite well on your own. You don't need any help here by anyone. Just using the keyboard shows how lacking you are in many departments.

EvilPopTarts wrote:

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Like you've been told repeatedly already, IF you want to discuss politicians, just lose the fear mongering urban myths about the canidates. Stick to REALITY, not assumption and wishful thinking

So in other words certain issues are not up for debate. You may see them as urban myths and some may see them as truth because of first hand experiences. Who made you the god of all knowledge?

Sorry there kiddo...But just because the people you've ran into prior to joining our board were gullible, the members here are not. And as long as you try to pass off lies as 'truth', the members here will call you on your trash.

Reposting the same old urban myths that are already posted here a hundred times, will still not make those lies truthful. Those stories were lies then, and they're still lies. And no matter how many times you keep trying to post them as 'truth', they will remain lies none-the-less.

The fact that you can't handle the majority of members here dismissing your lies for what they are, isn't our problem. But your own. If you want a more gullible audience to lie to...Then take those urban myths to another site that hasn't heard them yet...Good luck though in that department. Cause you'll run into very few people that haven't already heard them as well as the actual truth that debunks your stories for the lies they are.

EvilPopTarts wrote:

When you are the administrator of a site and you back up what someone else says its no different than you saying it yourself.

That is the biggest load of bs I've heard from you yet.

Sorry to burst your bubble here again kiddo...But as a MEMBER of this site, I'm entitled to agree or disagree with who I want to. As does the rest of our staff members.

And doing so is completely different from when any of us have to take up our moderating duties because of self-involved hypocrites like yourself.

Your accusation was we use our positions to moderate members that don't agree with us...It's been proven to you that we do not do so. In fact, because we don't use our personal opinions to moderate members, even despite your openly hostile attitude towards our staff and members who do disagree with you...You're still here and haven't been infracted, suspended, or banned.

And your actions actually have earned a suspension at least, banning at best...Yet the very people you are accusing of 'abusing their positions' here (me in particular) is the ONLY reason you are still allowed to post.

EvilPopTarts wrote:

The only thing I was trying to point out is that sooner or later people have to take personal responsibility. There are some things that people have to fix themselves. Welfare is a way of life for a lot of people. I would really like to see the black communities get past these issues. Those blacks who choose to do something with their lives are doing it and I applaud them. I'm sorry if I come out looking racist. I have a 4 year old adopted son who is African - American. He was a good friends child who had no relatives. He was killed in a car accident. The mother turned to alcohol and was found dead after being thrown off a bridge into a semi-dry creek bed. I would like to see him have a good life but I know he'll have to do it himself through personal responsibility. You won't get an apology from me even if my comments seem racist.

There are direct contradictions in your post. Live by our rules and say what we allow you to say? No thanks!

You sound just like those types that claim 'I'm not anti-gay...I know a few gays so I can't be anti-gay' while spewing anti-homosexual propaganda left and right...

If it walks like a duck, quacks like a duck, then there's a good chance it is a duck.

And boy, do you quack alot.

Sorry, but the only contridiction to anything said by me is the fact that your account here is still active. That for you especially, the zero tolerance stance of a member trashing the staff has been suspended for now...

Otherwise, there's been no contridictions at all. You've had it explained in clear, simple English what is/isn't tolerated on this board. It's also been explained to you in great detail just how off your assumptions are about reasons for bannings, suspensions, and verbal warning have been.

The fact that you don't like that being pointed out is your issue, not ours. And as such you've been told that if you don't like it, you are not being held prisoner here. As such, if 'no thanks' is your reply then don't let the door hit you on your way out.

Kapish?

**Coyote** · Posted: Sun Jun 22, 2008 2:04 pm Post subject:

EvilPopTarts wrote:

LMAO.. Now its a suspension? Call it what you want but it is what is....

When you are the administrator of a site and you back up what someone else says its no different than you saying it yourself....

What part of Alicorn's post did you have trouble understanding? Was it this part?

AlicornsPrayer wrote:

You better be careful there as well kiddo...Cause you keep up the personal attacks on myself or our staff along questioning the duties of our staff... I'll have no choice but to suspend you.

Personally, I think you're just here to troll.

**AlicornsPrayer** · Admin Thanks: 21 Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts votes: 2

Coyote wrote:

EvilPopTarts wrote:

LMAO.. Now its a suspension? Call it what you want but it is what is....

When you are the administrator of a site and you back up what someone else says its no different than you saying it yourself....

What part of Alicorn's post did you have trouble understanding? Was it this part?

AlicornsPrayer wrote:

You better be careful there as well kiddo...Cause you keep up the personal attacks on myself or our staff along questioning the duties of our staff... I'll have no choice but to suspend you.

Personally, I think you're just here to troll.

Yep, that's what I'm thinking Coyote...

He wants to be able to post his urban myths and not be contested with facts...And when that's done, he then screams 'attack' and 'administrative biasedness'...

I think he should have stuck to his fundie boards where being a sheep is normal eh?

I'm also guessing he's actually wanting to be banned so he can go whine elsewhere 'I got banned for my opinions'.

**oddmanin** · Soldier Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts votes: 2

hey rup--- you aint no fattie hater are you ? shedding a tear

say it aint so!!!--- altho, i am with you in disgust over those who would bitch as opposed to do---

**killerbee** · Soldier Thanks: 11 Thanked 17 Times in 15 Posts votes: 4

You're right oddmanin, any more talk about fatties and I'll complain to a supervi.......er .......anminist........er...........alicornsprayer or bowdown

. (THE BOSS)
So there and whats more, rupchuck, if you keep up this obvious and evil abuse against minorities (numbers not size) I'll take my bat and ball and go home and then where would you be? You wouldn't have me to kick around, that's where you'd be sonny.

Fatpride 4 evar!!!!

**oddmanin** · Soldier Thanks: 3 Thanked 11 Times in 9 Posts votes: 2

i prefer 'fluffy' Dancing

**Rupchuk** · Moderator Thanks: 0 Thanked 6 Times in 6 Posts votes: 4

There is only so much fat the body can take. I don't mind people who are thick or big, but morbidly obese disgusts me.