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Postby cyberella on Sun Dec 09, 2007 5:42 pm

[b]Look it up on the net. Google those statements he made. It was in all the newspapers lib and conservative.
He is encouraging the illegal aliens who are costing us millions of dollars.
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Postby Kizzume on Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:54 pm

cyberella wrote:[b]Look it up on the net. Google those statements he made. It was in all the newspapers lib and conservative.
He is encouraging the illegal aliens who are costing us millions of dollars.


He's encouraging IMMIGRATION. Not all immigrants are illegal.

If we're so scared they'll be able to take better advantage of the kind of life we can live here, then maybe WE should be learning something from them. I've met and have had too many neighbors that that were good, hard-working, loving Mexican families to think of it as anything that should intimidate us other than the fact that many people here don't realize what kind of wonderful freedoms we really have here--what kind of great opportunities are available here that people just aren't taking advantage of, and I think people are pissed off because they're seeing people doing what they wish they were doing.

If we reduce the positive elements of coming here ILLEGALLY, and make it easier to come here LEGALLY, I think we'll be taking care of the problem more.

But from everything I've read of his speeches, Obama seems to be trying to encourage immigration in general. Will that end up encouraging illegal immigrants too? Possibly, but that is not his goal.
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Postby Wolf on Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:03 pm

cyberella wrote:[b]Look it up on the net. Google those statements he made. It was in all the newspapers lib and conservative.
He is encouraging the illegal aliens who are costing us millions of dollars.

Got anything to back that up, or are you just spewing bullshit again?
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Postby Kizzume on Sun Dec 09, 2007 11:18 pm

Some people relate pushing immigration in general with pushing illegal immigration unless it specifically goes around also trying to speak highly against illegal immigration. Sad but true.
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Postby Coyote on Mon Dec 10, 2007 1:28 am

I say if you're against illegal immigration we should probably give the land back.
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Postby CHUQ on Mon Dec 10, 2007 3:30 am

I am not surprised that this is an issue for some, like the others they have started about his religion, or lack thereof, it smells of a bit of hatred.
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Postby Kizzume on Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:19 pm

He seems to be actually comparing immigration reform with the civil rights movement. You might be onto something.

How can those things be compared to each other?

CFR: Council on Foreign Relations. Until now, I hadn't heard of it. Now that I've researched it a bit more, I'm very disturbed. Very disturbed indeed.
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Postby cyberella on Thu Jan 17, 2008 1:37 pm

Obama's speech to La Raza:


(La Raza (The Race), Largest Hispanic organization in the U.S.
Lobbies for racial preferences, bilingual education, stricter hate crimes laws, mass immigration, and amnesty for illegal aliens )



Obama said the recent Senate immigration debate "was both ugly and racist in a way we haven't see since poststhe struggle for civil rights."...
Obama told La Raza that the mass protests lately of for immigration rights of Mexicans is equal in greatness to the civil rights protest of the past!




Omama supports La Raza's, the "DREAM Act," which would mandate states to offer in-state tuition rates to illegal aliens -- thus providing them with benefits not available to U.S. citizens from other states.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/pbc ... 30063/1001

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1870205/posts

http://www.miamiherald.com/campaign08/story/201957.html


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The National Academy of Sciences has estimated that each immigrant without a high school degree will cost U.S. taxpayers, on average, $89,000 over the course of his or her lifetime.[3] This is a net cost above the value of any taxes the immi*grant will pay and does not include the cost of educating the immigrant’s children, which U.S. taxpayers would also heavily subsidize. In this way, the roughly six million legal immigrants without a high school diploma will impose a net cost of around a half-trillion dollars on U.S. taxpayers over their lifetimes

Crime Statisitcs
95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.
86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.
75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.
24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually.
53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.
50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens from south of the border.
71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or alien smugglers. [b]
47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.
63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens.
66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66%, 98% are illegal.
Birth Statistics
380,000 plus “anchor babies” were born in the U.S. in 2005 to illegal alien parents, making 380,000 babies automatically U.S.citizens.
97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid by the American taxpayers.
66% plus of all births in California are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
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Postby CHUQ on Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:43 am

Great bunch of stats....but I want a law enforcement link...for verification.
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